Don`t cut planks while talking to your little son....
Don`t cut planks while talking to your little son....
This weekend I will remark in my aganda as "Black Boatbuilding Weekend"....
I´m working with the German Translation of "canoecraft" which is quiet well, but today I found that I misunderstood the passage about planking at the end of the stem and how to cut the planks at this area. Taking to my five year old boy while sawing made the rest -
So here is what I did:
I cutted the last planks on the inner bow stem of the Freedom 17 as I cut all the others - so now there is missing the piece of wood (about 1 inch) where the planks should slide go in the outer stem. This important thing I did not found in German Canoecraft - but AFTER CUT in "Building Bob´s Special". So: Any ideas to solve the problem. Would it be a good idea to epox a little piece of cedar on this area and shape it ? Or is it better to make a little bit longer outer stem. Don`t want to have a thin area in the boat. You see - I´m a really Greenhorn in Boatbuilding....
Best regards
Chris
I´m working with the German Translation of "canoecraft" which is quiet well, but today I found that I misunderstood the passage about planking at the end of the stem and how to cut the planks at this area. Taking to my five year old boy while sawing made the rest -
So here is what I did:
I cutted the last planks on the inner bow stem of the Freedom 17 as I cut all the others - so now there is missing the piece of wood (about 1 inch) where the planks should slide go in the outer stem. This important thing I did not found in German Canoecraft - but AFTER CUT in "Building Bob´s Special". So: Any ideas to solve the problem. Would it be a good idea to epox a little piece of cedar on this area and shape it ? Or is it better to make a little bit longer outer stem. Don`t want to have a thin area in the boat. You see - I´m a really Greenhorn in Boatbuilding....
Best regards
Chris
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- Glen Smith
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Hi Chris, this is one piece of information that is not stressed enough in most books. I set up a page of photos and text on my msn photos site concerning the mortice and the outer stems: http://groups.msn.com/CanoesKayaks/outerstems.msnw.
However, it is too late for use because you are already in trouble. I didn't do a good job in this area on my first boat as I did not understand the procedure and I patched the stem area with epoxy thickened with silica and wood dust. I don't like the looks of it but nobody else seem to even notice it!
However, it is too late for use because you are already in trouble. I didn't do a good job in this area on my first boat as I did not understand the procedure and I patched the stem area with epoxy thickened with silica and wood dust. I don't like the looks of it but nobody else seem to even notice it!
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- Patricks Dad
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Glen, Great pictures. Much more thorough description of the procedure than the book. Patrick and I spent this past weekend cutting the mortises on our Redbird. We're just about ready to put on the stems and shape them. Your pictures and descriptions are very helpful. Thanks for taking the time (as usual).
- Dean in Eureka, CA
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Hey Randy,Patricks Dad wrote:Patrick and I spent this past weekend cutting the mortises on our Redbird.
Any pictures of before cutting the mortise?
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Dean in Eureka, CA
Dean in Eureka, CA
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Dean, Not sure exactly what you are looking for but I have lots of pictures (over 400). I have sent you a link to the last 200 or so. Let me know if you find what you are looking for. I haven't uploaded any pictures of the mortise yet. Anyone else who would like like to look at them can find them at:
http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAt2bFk1atmG7
I'm not a professional photographer either....
http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAt2bFk1atmG7
I'm not a professional photographer either....
- Dean in Eureka, CA
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Thanks Randy,
By the looks of things, it would appear that the outer stem needs to be tapered (width) at the keel area prior to the mortise being cut. I probably would have done the same thing and made my mortise a set width throughout and not tapered it at the end.
By the looks of things, it would appear that the outer stem needs to be tapered (width) at the keel area prior to the mortise being cut. I probably would have done the same thing and made my mortise a set width throughout and not tapered it at the end.
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Dean in Eureka, CA
Dean in Eureka, CA
Patricks Dad
Hallo Randy & Patrick - just had a look on the 220 pic`s - the photos aren`r so bad as you pointed out - an the hull of your redbird is really impressive. Looks more like finde art!
Best regards
Chris
Best regards
Chris
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- Dean in Eureka, CA
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Randy,
Excellent job!!!
Nice picture album also.
I really like the maple leaf.
Excellent job!!!
Nice picture album also.
I really like the maple leaf.
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Dean in Eureka, CA
Dean in Eureka, CA
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Not sure where that's going to end up. I'm sure it will find itself in a prominent place in my son's room. It really is a hoot to work on this project with my son. At 16, he's no doubt tempted with lots of other things he could be doing (in the case of homework - "should" be doing). I'm very proud that he chooses to spend time in a mouse infested garage with me. We're both looking forward to a canoe trip once we're done (we spent 9 days paddling in Quetico Provincial Park in 2003).
Then again, he got me into this mess; he better help get me out!
Then again, he got me into this mess; he better help get me out!