Thinking Ahead Here,
(Way Ahead)
After the Redbird is done...
After the Teardrop Trailer is done...
I want to build a kayak.
I live right on the Pacific Coast and a sea kayak seems to be the way to go with this.
I'm leaning towards the Outer Island.
Anyone have any comments they'd like to share about this design?
Kayak Design
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Dean in Eureka, CA
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Kayak Design
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Dean in Eureka, CA
Dean in Eureka, CA
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Glen Smith
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Outer Island Kayak
Hi Dean, I have read quite a few comments concerning this design. It is a fast, good tracking kayak. It has a very low rear deck for performing rolls. It is a fairly low volume kayak so you probably couldn't load enough supplies for a long expedition but it seems to be well designed for the coastline.
There is quite a few kayak websites out there, here are some of my favorite;
You pick what flavour you like best.
http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/
http://www.bearmountainboats.com/plansKayaksindex.htm
http://www.greenval.com/
http://www.pygmyboats.com/
http://www.clcboats.com/index.php
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
Happy building,
Doug
You pick what flavour you like best.
http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/
http://www.bearmountainboats.com/plansKayaksindex.htm
http://www.greenval.com/
http://www.pygmyboats.com/
http://www.clcboats.com/index.php
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
Happy building,
Doug
"Some people hear the song in the quiet mist of a cold morning..... But for other people the song is loudest in the evening when they are sitting in front of a tent, basking in the camp fire's warmth. This is when I hear it loudest ...." BM
Outer Island
I built one and have no complaints. Let me know if you have any questions.
Kurt
http://www.loup-garou.net
Kurt
http://www.loup-garou.net
Kurt,
Nice web site & kayak, by the way.
My eyes got a little wider when I saw your fly rod, wow.
Bamboo?
I've heard a lot of good things about them.
Came a cross www.hipwader.com , they have a five part "how to build a bamboo fly rod".
I built Bear Mountains "Endeavour" kayak last year.
All the best,
Doug
Nice web site & kayak, by the way.
My eyes got a little wider when I saw your fly rod, wow.
Bamboo?
I've heard a lot of good things about them.
Came a cross www.hipwader.com , they have a five part "how to build a bamboo fly rod".
I built Bear Mountains "Endeavour" kayak last year.
All the best,
Doug
"Some people hear the song in the quiet mist of a cold morning..... But for other people the song is loudest in the evening when they are sitting in front of a tent, basking in the camp fire's warmth. This is when I hear it loudest ...." BM
fly rod
Doug,
Thanks for the compliments. Since rodmaking is off topic for this forum, feel free to email me with questions. There are a number of articles online about making bamboo rods online so I won't repeat that here. Do a search for a friend of mine, Harry Boyd. He has written an online tutoral. Thomas Penrose also has some good information on rod making on his web page. Do a search for Rodmakers. There are tons of links to follow on that site. If you don't want to invest a lot into building a rod, consider a two strip bamboo rod. It sounds unconventional, which it is, but the results are surprising. I will be helping a couple friends make a two strip rod after the holidays. I'll try to take pictures and add some instructions to my webpage. You can build a two strip rod with the tools you likely have on hand from the Endeavor. Essentially, all you need are a block plane, mill file, chisel, saw and a dial caliper. I used Raka epoxy to glue up my last rod. There is no need for a planing form like in 6 strip construction or elaborate oven temporing. The hardest thing to obtain will be the bamboo.
Kurt
Thanks for the compliments. Since rodmaking is off topic for this forum, feel free to email me with questions. There are a number of articles online about making bamboo rods online so I won't repeat that here. Do a search for a friend of mine, Harry Boyd. He has written an online tutoral. Thomas Penrose also has some good information on rod making on his web page. Do a search for Rodmakers. There are tons of links to follow on that site. If you don't want to invest a lot into building a rod, consider a two strip bamboo rod. It sounds unconventional, which it is, but the results are surprising. I will be helping a couple friends make a two strip rod after the holidays. I'll try to take pictures and add some instructions to my webpage. You can build a two strip rod with the tools you likely have on hand from the Endeavor. Essentially, all you need are a block plane, mill file, chisel, saw and a dial caliper. I used Raka epoxy to glue up my last rod. There is no need for a planing form like in 6 strip construction or elaborate oven temporing. The hardest thing to obtain will be the bamboo.
Kurt
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Dean in Eureka, CA
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Hey Kurt,
I don't see a problem about talking about fly rods, you're fishing from the cockpit of your kayak, right?
If you feel uneasy about talking about fly rods on this thread, Glen has an off topic thread, located at the bottom of the index page. You can talk about anything you want there, just about.
I've made quite a few fly rods over the years, but never a bamboo rod.
Are you using Tonkin Cane? If so, where'd yaa find that stuff, if you didn't end up going to China yourself to get it? Maybe things have changed a bit since back when I considered doing a bamboo rod.
I'd definately like to talk bamboo with you, but let's do that in the off topic section to keep the new boss happy
Hey... I do have some questions about that beautiful boat you got there.
There's been some talk about the Outer Island being a low volume boat.
Have you ever taken it on a multi-day run?
If so, was getting enough gear stowed ever a problem?
I don't see a problem about talking about fly rods, you're fishing from the cockpit of your kayak, right?
If you feel uneasy about talking about fly rods on this thread, Glen has an off topic thread, located at the bottom of the index page. You can talk about anything you want there, just about.
I've made quite a few fly rods over the years, but never a bamboo rod.
Are you using Tonkin Cane? If so, where'd yaa find that stuff, if you didn't end up going to China yourself to get it? Maybe things have changed a bit since back when I considered doing a bamboo rod.
I'd definately like to talk bamboo with you, but let's do that in the off topic section to keep the new boss happy
Hey... I do have some questions about that beautiful boat you got there.
There's been some talk about the Outer Island being a low volume boat.
Have you ever taken it on a multi-day run?
If so, was getting enough gear stowed ever a problem?
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Dean in Eureka, CA
Dean in Eureka, CA
Kurt & Dean,
thanks for the info.
Dean, perhaps a "Boat Accessory" forum here.
Congratulation new Administrators, Dean & Glen.
Fly fishing from my kayak, ...hum, that would be tricky.
All the best in this holiday season,
Doug
thanks for the info.
Dean, perhaps a "Boat Accessory" forum here.
Congratulation new Administrators, Dean & Glen.
Fly fishing from my kayak, ...hum, that would be tricky.
All the best in this holiday season,
Doug
"Some people hear the song in the quiet mist of a cold morning..... But for other people the song is loudest in the evening when they are sitting in front of a tent, basking in the camp fire's warmth. This is when I hear it loudest ...." BM
fly rods and kayaks
Doug and Dean,
I don't have a problem, as long as no one else does. There are a couple sources for Tonkin bamboo. I haven't ordered any in over 5 years (I have a stash to keep me busy for a long time) so I'm not current on the suppliers. Harold Demarest is the most well known distributor. He was the first supplier that I ordered from. The minimum at the time was 3 culms. Shipping is the killer. I think the delivered price was about $125. The price is not as bad as it seems as it is possible to make 3 six strip rods from each culm if you are careful splitting the strips. I ordered some culms from Sui River for the unbelievable delivered price of $25 for 3, but I wasn't totally satisfied as there was some mold in the cane. However, I don't think they are around any longer. Andy Royer in Seatle was another supplier. Golden Witch also supplies bamboo. The best deal is if you can split a bale (I think this is 12 culms) with someone. I did this once with two other guys. Usually, the bamboo fly rod making gatherings with have cane for sale.
I've fished from my kayak, but I prefer fishing from my canoe. I like to have a lot of gear on hand. Fishing out of the kayak requires everything you need on the front deck or in the cockpit.
I don't do any overnight trips so I can't comment on the room for gear, but I suspect most kayaks can hold a lot of gear if you pack it properly.
Kurt
I don't have a problem, as long as no one else does. There are a couple sources for Tonkin bamboo. I haven't ordered any in over 5 years (I have a stash to keep me busy for a long time) so I'm not current on the suppliers. Harold Demarest is the most well known distributor. He was the first supplier that I ordered from. The minimum at the time was 3 culms. Shipping is the killer. I think the delivered price was about $125. The price is not as bad as it seems as it is possible to make 3 six strip rods from each culm if you are careful splitting the strips. I ordered some culms from Sui River for the unbelievable delivered price of $25 for 3, but I wasn't totally satisfied as there was some mold in the cane. However, I don't think they are around any longer. Andy Royer in Seatle was another supplier. Golden Witch also supplies bamboo. The best deal is if you can split a bale (I think this is 12 culms) with someone. I did this once with two other guys. Usually, the bamboo fly rod making gatherings with have cane for sale.
I've fished from my kayak, but I prefer fishing from my canoe. I like to have a lot of gear on hand. Fishing out of the kayak requires everything you need on the front deck or in the cockpit.
I don't do any overnight trips so I can't comment on the room for gear, but I suspect most kayaks can hold a lot of gear if you pack it properly.
Kurt