Identification of Indian Chief

canoebuildinggolfer · Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:47 pm

Does anyone know who this Indian Chief is ? I have already 'lifted' him and enlarged it to a suitable size for leading the canoe...I'd just like to know his name...I know I'm going to be asked....so I will need to identify him. Thanks TC

Its Me · Post by **Its Me** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:03 am

Crazy Horse? Although he was a plains Indian and I think more inclined to be on a horse than in a canoe.

http://www.etsu.edu/cas/history/resourc ... pter16.htm

mtpocket · Post by **mtpocket** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:19 am

I'm not sure who the indian is, but the indian in the picture is not Crazy Horse. It is Red Cloud (old) - Mahpiya Luta (Oglala Sioux) 1822-1909. From all that I have read, Crazy Horse never allowed his picture to be taken. He also only lived for 32 to 35 years.

http://digilander.libero.it/Bologna16/i ... /faces.htm

Its Me · Post by **Its Me** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:29 am

mtpocket wrote:I'm not sure who the indian is, but the indian in the picture is not Crazy Horse. It is Red Cloud (old) - Mahpiya Luta (Oglala Sioux) 1822-1909. From all that I have read, Crazy Horse never allowed his picture to be taken. He also only lived for 32 to 35 years.

http://digilander.libero.it/Bologna16/i ... /faces.htm

You mean my refernce source, a six grade student web site, had less than accurate information? I will email the Principal.
:razz

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:00 pm

mtpocket,

Outstanding photographs and information.
Thanks,
Doug

mtpocket · Post by **mtpocket** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:22 pm

I cannot take credit for the photos or the info, I just knew where they were, but you're welcome.

Bryan Hansel · Post by **Bryan Hansel** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:05 pm

My guess is that it isn't any real person, but just pendant of what the artist thought a Native American chief would look like. So my vote goes to Crazy Horse. Maybe Black Hawk.

Glen Smith · Post by **Glen Smith** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm

Hi It's Me, the Indian Chief you posted above is supposedly Red Cloud according to the "properties" of the photo you posted.

culturecop · Post by **culturecop** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:44 pm

It may be cultural imperialism if you don't get permission to use the image.

mtpocket · Post by **mtpocket** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:55 pm

To canoebuildinggolfer,

Whoever it is really doesn't matter, it's a beautiful piece of jewelry you have. What are your plans for it?

canoebuildinggolfer · Post by **canoebuildinggolfer** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:59 am

Well....

......my plan was to put it on the bow/stern of my canoe.....it purposely was built to look like an "Indian canoe".....opposed to a Canadian canoe....???? :big grin....being the Vietnam vet. that I am

.....I've had enough confrontation to last me a lifetime.....I think I've just built a CANADIAN canoe and am very happy with it ....thanks very much to everyone for thier input... :smile .....thanks again TC

canoebuildinggolfer · Post by **canoebuildinggolfer** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:49 am

Sorry MTP.... :rolling eyes ...what I COULD have done was ...

....enlarge the image, save it to 'bitmap'..doctor it....print it onto tranparency film in grayscale with 'best' printing mode.... :twisted evil ..and then ???? :frightened ...maybe, put it on my canoe....... IF I had of done this it would probably look like this....[imhttp://sc.groups.msn.com/tn/CC/11/canoebuildinggolfer/1/1e.jpgg]....ONLY if this is what I was going to do

.....hope you understand TC

canoebuildinggolfer · Post by **canoebuildinggolfer** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:23 am

http://au.msnusers.com/canoebuildinggol ... snw?Page=3 Maybe this is a better link......TC

Old indians · Post by **Old indians** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:17 pm

I do love it when we talk about the old Indians!

I was reading recently that the local Powahatan showed little interest in horses which the English imported here in Virginia being orientated toward canoe traffic.

Oh what if we could return to this as our primary means of transport?-Rod

Chris Ostlind · Post by **Chris Ostlind** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:57 pm

And here I always thought the introduction of the horse was due to the Spanish Conquistador influence throughout the North American plains and western regions. That would have taken place long before the English even thought of landing a colony in Virginia, wouldn't it?

Chris

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