Q about tying off caning on seats
Q about tying off caning on seats
Hi,
I'm putting the binding cane on my seats and I find that it is difficult to get the canoe to have a nice tight setting knot on these last pieces. Since some of the end holes already have two knots on them, the third knot from the binding sits over top and floats a bit. Pulling tight doesn't seat it as good as I'd like, unless I really pull hard. Pulling hard makes the binding cane look not so good though. I'm thinking about putting some CA glue or head cement on these last pieces. Any other thoughts?
thanks
I'm putting the binding cane on my seats and I find that it is difficult to get the canoe to have a nice tight setting knot on these last pieces. Since some of the end holes already have two knots on them, the third knot from the binding sits over top and floats a bit. Pulling tight doesn't seat it as good as I'd like, unless I really pull hard. Pulling hard makes the binding cane look not so good though. I'm thinking about putting some CA glue or head cement on these last pieces. Any other thoughts?
thanks
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This looks like a job for - dat ta da daaa Patrick's Dad,..
Oh Randy,.. paging Randy Pfeifer.
Randy has some links I think to shutterfly showing his son working on some caned seats. Turned out drop dead gorgeous.
Between him and his son I'd bet they can come up with an answer for you.
Oh Randy,.. paging Randy Pfeifer.
Randy has some links I think to shutterfly showing his son working on some caned seats. Turned out drop dead gorgeous.
Between him and his son I'd bet they can come up with an answer for you.
Tim Eastman
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Here is one of my seats with the caning finished, other than replacing the corner pegs with pegs made of a softwood.
The flash photo makes the varnished wood look all washed out, but in reality the cherry frame is quite nice (if I may say so myself!). The photo gallery has only two other seat pictures, one of the frame only and one of the caning after a few steps are completed. http://shmish.smugmug.com/gallery/73853 ... 6817_3ZxVf
Oh, I guess this is also the fruits of my labour after my questions and ponderings on joinery for the seat frames, where I finally decided to do a hand-chiseled mortise and tenon.
The flash photo makes the varnished wood look all washed out, but in reality the cherry frame is quite nice (if I may say so myself!). The photo gallery has only two other seat pictures, one of the frame only and one of the caning after a few steps are completed. http://shmish.smugmug.com/gallery/73853 ... 6817_3ZxVf
Oh, I guess this is also the fruits of my labour after my questions and ponderings on joinery for the seat frames, where I finally decided to do a hand-chiseled mortise and tenon.
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Boy sluggo - I don't see anything to complain about there. It looks fantastic. Cherry can hide it's nice qualities due to flash. We had a seat with some beautiful figuring that looked all mottled in the photos but in sunlight was stunning.
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Thanks Tim, no complaints from me. I just hope it doesn't unravel :)
Any ideas on where or how to get or make softwood pegs? All I can think of is to put a piece of wrc in my drill and have a friend hold the button while I run a rasp on the wood to taper the peg. I can't imagine it would make the best taper though. Maybe I need to find someone with a lathe.
Any ideas on where or how to get or make softwood pegs? All I can think of is to put a piece of wrc in my drill and have a friend hold the button while I run a rasp on the wood to taper the peg. I can't imagine it would make the best taper though. Maybe I need to find someone with a lathe.
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I've been away from the forum for quite awhile, haven't I? :embarassed
I don't recall if I ended up with more than two knots in any one hole, but I know I never had a problem pulling the knots tight enough. I don't know what sort of knot you are using, but all that is really needed is a simple "loop beneath itself" kind of deal, keeping it all tucked on the underside of the seat to avoid bumps on the top.
We also didn't use any binding...
As for pegs, scraps of cedar work just fine. We had plenty of wedge shaped, nicely sized pieces left over.
I don't recall if I ended up with more than two knots in any one hole, but I know I never had a problem pulling the knots tight enough. I don't know what sort of knot you are using, but all that is really needed is a simple "loop beneath itself" kind of deal, keeping it all tucked on the underside of the seat to avoid bumps on the top.
We also didn't use any binding...
As for pegs, scraps of cedar work just fine. We had plenty of wedge shaped, nicely sized pieces left over.
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I use a technique called couching that I learned from Wayne Sharps website, I use a cut off golf tee and pull the cane over the top of the peg from both directions and tie the cane off underneath. Wayne explains it well on his website.
http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~wayne/Caning/CaneStep7.htm
http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~wayne/Caning/CaneStep7.htm
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AlanWS - what a beautiful pattern!
Do you know where I can find instructions for that 5-pointed star pattern? Do the sides of the frame need to be at a specific angle? Looks that way...72 degrees maybe?
Please and thank you.
Please and thank you.