This sucks !
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This sucks !
Red bird is ready for epoxy and I cant afford to purchase right now. This is killing me.
- Glen Smith
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Raka
Maybe you should try cheaper epoxy. Raka is about as inexpensive as it comes. Their five ounce cloth is also pretty cheap. Your only talking $200 or so for resin, hardener and cloth.
Get a piece of cardboard and string, write on the cardboard "Will work for fiberglass and epoxy" and stand out on a busy intersection. Maybe someone will be so intrigued and ask what your talking about and give you the money!
Get a piece of cardboard and string, write on the cardboard "Will work for fiberglass and epoxy" and stand out on a busy intersection. Maybe someone will be so intrigued and ask what your talking about and give you the money!
Either I'm blind, or Raka hasn't listed their 5 oz cloth on their site for a while. Their epoxy has a low price and has tested out to be excellent, but there are even cheaper options.
http://www.uscomposites.com/epoxy.html has a slow-cure non-blushing epoxy that costs about half as much as the Raka. I think you need to do the glassing at 80 degrees F or warmer though. A few people do still use polyester resin rather than epoxy. It is substantially cheaper than epoxy (ca. $20/gal) and will work, though epoxy has enough advantages that most builders use it.
30 years ago, when the total cost of wood, glass, hardware and resin to make a canoe was about $100, the price difference seemed more important than it does today. Some polyesters apparently stick to the wood a lot better than others, so if you do go that route, getting the resin from someplace like Ketter, that has been making canoes with both polyester and epoxy for many years, might be worth it. http://www.kettercanoeing.com/html/buildingsupps.html
http://www.uscomposites.com/epoxy.html has a slow-cure non-blushing epoxy that costs about half as much as the Raka. I think you need to do the glassing at 80 degrees F or warmer though. A few people do still use polyester resin rather than epoxy. It is substantially cheaper than epoxy (ca. $20/gal) and will work, though epoxy has enough advantages that most builders use it.
30 years ago, when the total cost of wood, glass, hardware and resin to make a canoe was about $100, the price difference seemed more important than it does today. Some polyesters apparently stick to the wood a lot better than others, so if you do go that route, getting the resin from someplace like Ketter, that has been making canoes with both polyester and epoxy for many years, might be worth it. http://www.kettercanoeing.com/html/buildingsupps.html
Alan
- Glen Smith
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epoxy
Try a website by the name of "soller paddles". They sell West system epoxy the cheapest I've found on the net. Have made 4 perchases from them. Excellent company to buy from,and plus if they over charge on your shipping they refund your amount you were overcharged ASAP. I believe the only way to pay for it over the net is by PayPal. But you could probabley call them at there shop and do it by cedit card. I give them a A+++. I have another batch of epoxy and hardener coming as we speak.
Best of luck,and if you would send me your canoe,i'll surely epoxy it myself.And send it back after a couple of years,just to make sure I did a great job.
Take Care,
"CEDAR STROKER" :twisted evil
Best of luck,and if you would send me your canoe,i'll surely epoxy it myself.And send it back after a couple of years,just to make sure I did a great job.
Take Care,
"CEDAR STROKER" :twisted evil
I have used the US Composites on my Endeavour. Since it is my first boat, I have nothing to compare it with, but I will give you my comments, nonetheless. Overall, I was very happy with the products. I used 6 oz e-glass and their medium hardener. The cloth came rolled on a bolt - in good condition. I got a good wet-out and nice transparency over most of the surface. I have two areas (approx 1.5' dia each) where if you look really close and in the right light, you can see the weave pattern, very lightly as a "white" weave. It is hardley noticeable. I glassed at 65-70 deg F and approx 70% humidity and was able to re-apply after approx 3.5-4 hours.
Sorry if this post has turned into a products evaluation page, but I wanted to post my comments when I saw the ref to US Composites. I was not sure when I was selecting my products so I figured I would share my experience to let you know how it turned out. The price was certainly right!
Sorry if this post has turned into a products evaluation page, but I wanted to post my comments when I saw the ref to US Composites. I was not sure when I was selecting my products so I figured I would share my experience to let you know how it turned out. The price was certainly right!
Snowman back East
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Inexpensive Epoxy
If you want something cheaper, try Aquaset - I am using it, and it seems to work well.
Pat
Pat