The Shape of the Canoe

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:15 am

May be of interest,

( http://www.greenval.com/Shape_of_the_Canoe.html )

All the best,
Doug

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hoz · Post by **hoz** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:22 am

...all I get is gobblygook. John Winters logo and then computerspeak

Denis · Post by **Denis** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:45 pm

It looks like it is an adobe type pdf file but my adobe reader didnt open to read it

Denis

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:16 pm

Try this, http://www.greenval.com and follow the links.

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Bayport_Bob · Post by **Bayport_Bob** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:38 am

It didn't open properly with Firefox browser, but Internet Exploer worked ok.

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:55 am

?? Can you Google "Green Valley Boats Works"??

www.greenval.com

Good luck,
Doug

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Bryan Hansel · Post by **Bryan Hansel** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:01 pm

I bought a paper copy of The Shape of the Canoe a couple of years ago from John Winters and it is a worthwhile purchase. The two programs that they give away with the book are free and available on the internet. KAPER is a drag prediction program used most famously by Sea Kayaker magazine. Bearboat is the program that Kayak Foundry was modeled on. Hopefully, soon, HULLS will start supporting the required field for entry into KAPER.

The book is very deep, and it has taken a great amount of time for me to start to understand the basics of everything that is in there. I took designing my own kayak and using The Shape of the Canoe as reference to really understand some of what he writes.

I wish I knew if more information is in this version vs. my paper version. If it is a significant update, I'd buy it again. It's worth the money.

Anyone know what CANTRAC is?

Bryan

Glen Smith · Post by **Glen Smith** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:40 pm

This is what John says about Cantrac:

"CANTRAC, my experimental directional stability program."

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:23 am

Bryan,
(for your information)

John Winters
http://www.greenval.com/jwinters.html
(he also hangs out at Canadian Canoe Routes forum, www.myccr.com )

Martin Step
Green Valley Boat Works
P.O. Box 20004, Pioneer Park Postal Outlet
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
N2P 2B4

Bryan Hansel · Post by **Bryan Hansel** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:04 pm

Thanks Doug, I've seen him post over there. I fired off an email to Martin about the differences in the paper vs. ebook. We'll see shortly, I hope.